We also suffer with male factor infertility. (Katharine we were actually in the orientation group with you guys the first time around. I have enjoyed getting updated with you through the forum) We are also againers and like Katharine we have not really discussed the infertility issues this go round like we did before. I truly feel in my heart that we have resolved that part of our lives. Shortly after meeting our son we both looked at one another and said that we were thankful for infertility and let me say we have come a long way. I am sure that every adoptive parent feels that same way